Dietrich Parents Want More Notification on Class Content

2013-03-28T10:00:00Z Dietrich Parents Want More Notification on Class ContentBy Kimberlee Kruesi - kkruesi@magicvalley.com Twin Falls Times-News

DIETRICH • Dietrich science teacher Tim McDaniel should have given parents more notification about his possible controversial lesson content, claims a small group of parents upset with McDaniel’s teaching style.

The Dietrich parents are behind the complaint brought before the Dietrich school board that also led to an investigation from the Idaho Professional Standards Commission.

The state investigation includes allegations that McDaniel taught sex education material in his science class, taught inappropriate forms of birth control, told inappropriate jokes and showed a video clip in class that showed a genital herpes infection.

“As a parent, I want to be notified in advance that this content is going to be taught in class,” said Katie Norman, one of the three parents who raised concerns at the March 12 school board meeting. Norman said she attended the meeting with Jaylyn Shaw and Melinda Robertson. Together, they raised objections to McDaniel’s science lesson content on the reproduction system. Shaw did not return phone calls from the Times-News, and Robertson’s husband said he and his wife did not want to comment.

Dietrich Superintendent Neil Hollingshead did not return phone calls from the Times-News to confirm that the parents submitted the complaint at the meeting.

Norman — who has four children in the Dietrich school system — said she wanted to be able to make the choice to have her child subjected to the lesson material that included a lesson on birth control.

McDaniel said that he teaches directly from the school-approved biology textbook. He also denied sharing student information with anyone other than a parent.

He said that the 10th grade science class includes information on birth control and sexually transmitted diseases because the school’s health teacher declines to teach the material.

“Since I started working here about 17 years ago, I agreed to teach about the reproduction system because I was comfortable with it and he wasn’t,” McDaniel said. “This is the first time someone has objected to the material.”

According to McDaniel, the science class is not for sex education. However, for next year, McDaniel said he plans on giving more parental notification.

“It’s important to teach this to kids,” he said. “Hopefully, the students are being abstinent but most of these students will be getting married a year or two after graduation and they need to know about this.”

McDaniel said he plans to submit a letter to the state commission today responding to the investigation.

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  1. 1967
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    1967 - March 30, 2013 7:56 pm
    If you didn't teach your children the parts of the body when they were very young then don't blame someone else for it. Children very young will ask, why don't I have what my little brother has and that is when you start too teach them. I learned my parts when I was 6 and living out on the farm, you see alot and ask questions. The children bring the books home, didn't they,Did the parents look at the subjects (books)? If not don't blame the teacher.
  2. IdahoBeekeeper
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    IdahoBeekeeper - March 30, 2013 8:42 am
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    VIVE LA VAGINA - March 29, 2013 2:21 pm
    Here is an e-mail I sent to Mr. Tim Luna (tluna@sde.idaho.gov), head of the Idaho State Department of Idaho. Send him also your e-mail...

    Dear Mr. Luna,

    I respectfully address you this e-mail in support of Mr. Tim McDaniel. I do it as a parent of a 7 years old boy and as the son of a Biology professor. I believe that sending Mr. McDaniel a reprehending letter for using the word VAGINA in class, as published in the Magic Valley news, it is the same as opening a precedent to incriminate any professor for anything they say. It is an absurd that some parents complain of that, inducing the state of Idaho to spend precious money and time that should be used for more important educational purposes!!! Not to mention the fact that VAGINA is the correct and appropriate word to describe the human part of the body through which we all came to this life!!!

    Please give you contribution for this word to keep its freedom…I sincerely beg you!!!

    Happy Eastern!!!
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    VIVE LA VAGINA - March 29, 2013 2:03 pm
    maybe he could refer to it as the The Little box that makes people.....except in Dietrich where people are born via annus.....
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    VIVE LA VAGINA - March 29, 2013 1:55 pm
    This world is becoming too "politically correct"!!!! What are these parents
    attacking the professor who said "vagina" in the biology class trying to do??? To have their 15 minutes of fame??? They are the most precise examplefication of what the word idiot means!!! Yes your idiots, if there is a reason why you were born it is the fact
    that your fathers introduced their penis in the vagina of your mothers.
    Why do you want to silence this professor? So your kids can do sex without
    any preparation so you have an excuse for when they get pregnant and
    make abortions? People like you should have never come to this planet.
    You are an abortion by nature and abomination before my eyes!!! If you believe you have to teach your kids about biology o sex then don't send them to schools. For centuries human anatomy has been taught at schools. I learned that when I was 8 years old in a country that Americans believe to be in development. And I learned it at home too because I was raised in a not hypocrite family which wants me to be prepared for life. And I believe the attitude of Idaho State against the professor to be abusive. I'm with him and he shall never sign any reprehension letter imposed by the state. The state should expel the kids from the school whose parents don't agree with the rules and curriculum....
  6. About-time
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    About-time - March 29, 2013 9:05 am
    The one think that really get's the "back woods" community going more than "penises" and "vaginas." Fo these adults, it's like these parts of kids are not there and it is somehow sinful or dangerous to acknowledge that we got them. Of course, in a small town like Dietrich, what is there to do on a warm summer evening but try out these parts no one ever talks about. Ooops! pregnancy and then the church can shun - and the adults can blame the kids. Maybe we should just set aside a chunk of the U.S.,.with a big tall wall, and invite all the stupid people to go there and live.
  7. Odysseus
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    Odysseus - March 28, 2013 8:09 pm
    Bruddaman is exactly right Kitty Norman is behind all the drama in Dietrich! This isn't her first escapade like this, And Jaylyn and Melinda are her little puppets.
  8. hmc1974
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    hmc1974 - March 28, 2013 5:31 pm
    Maybe she should have taken Mr. McDaniel's class...
  9. Bruddaman
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    Bruddaman - March 28, 2013 5:08 pm
    I can confirm that allegation.
  10. Bruddaman
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    Bruddaman - March 28, 2013 5:05 pm
    Here's are some comments I found on this article on FOXNEWS.COM - I just want to thank Kitty Norman, Jaylyn Shaw, and Melinda Robertson for promoting not only Dietrich but the Magic Valley and Idaho as a bunch of idiots. THANK YOU SO MUCH...Oh and please move out of the state so we can regain our self respect.

    "Looks like from the international comments posted in the Twin Falls paper, this town is the laughingstock of the "backward" old world. Comments from people who state specifically they USED to look up to the United States until we started acting like a badly written Comedy Central show. So much for the "if you don't teach them about it, they won't do it" philosophy."

    "Jeez...I'm starting to suffer from an overdose of "stupid", I hope I don't turn into a Progressive."

    " All I can say is Stupid must be running rampant in Idaho."

    " I guess every state has an A-nus. Dietrich must be Idahos."
  11. Kittrus
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    Kittrus - March 28, 2013 1:37 pm
    What never ceases to amaze me - even having been born & raised here - is the level of ignorance that same want to revel in. Your 15 year-old doesn't know she has a vagina? And from there it's just gets "more stupider."

    Two things: My sister & bilaw are LDS. Their kids knew from early on (3 or so) the proper names for body parts & functions. Our kids went through the Planned Parenthood sex-ed class when they hit 10 years. It was a repeat lesson for them a year later when Sr. Nancy at St. ****'s taught the 6th graders the reproductive system with the proper names in their health class. Yeah, we signed permission slips. Why wouldn't we? It's KNOWLEDGE.
  12. citizen2
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    citizen2 - March 28, 2013 1:06 pm
    Yes, and the way to do that is to write letters of support to the State Standards Board and to the Dietrich Superintendent.

    You can find contact info for the Professional Standards Commission here: http://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/teacher_certification/contact_us.htm
  13. Ramsey
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    Ramsey - March 28, 2013 12:54 pm
    Ah, a witch-hunt by a miserable prude and her miserable friends. Imagine that. Have we really reached this point? I'm not surprised by the miserable prude squad so much as I am at the weak willed school board and superintendent that let this go as far as it has. Guess what, when the fringe dwellers get offended, it's best to ignore them. To do anything else old emboldens the above mentioned fringies. Don't like science, take your kids out and educate them in your hermit hole but don't hurt the rest of the kids by attacking a good teacher because YOU live in a repressed semi-life.
  14. Teacha
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    Teacha - March 28, 2013 12:37 pm
    This "witch hunt" is exactly why Idaho teachers need and deserve contractual protection. Here is Mr. McDaniel going above and beyond to educate his students and a few parents decided to take him down, for "whatever reason" which I doubt has anything to do with what he is teaching but has everything to do with parental gossip and fire spreading! Get it together parents of Dietrich! Where are the parents that appreciate this teacher? They need to stand up and have their voices be heard!
  15. magiceducator
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    magiceducator - March 28, 2013 12:32 pm
    I find it very interesting that a parent (Norman) would demand to "make the choice to have her child subjected to the lesson material that included a lesson on birth control". Clearly, she was tardy doing her job as a protective parent. If the material was in the text book, why hadn't she perused it by this late in the academic year and raised concerns about content earlier, before the class lesson? She had ample opportunity to look at her child's books by the 2nd week of school. She is "way late". Secondly, I suspect this parent considers herself to be religious/Christian? If this is also true, why would said parent object to a clinical discussion of body parts and what these body parts can do? If we are truly made in the image of God--why is the educational discussion of certain parts of us considered vehemently prohibited? Our eyes are precious too. Would she object to information regarding protection of those body parts? Thirdly, Dietrich is an agricultural community. My guess is that these same children have seen those same body parts of farm animals. They already know what goes where. And last, but certainly not least, are these parents on a different planet than the rest of us? High school students are sexually active. Perhaps the children of the four contentious parents are not, but they certainly live in a subculture which includes sex. Knowledge is power--in this case, specific to birth control, power to avoid STDs and unwanted pregnancy. Teaching about such things does not give the child permission to have sex--but to protect themselves should they choose. And parents, whether you choose or not, they will, and sometimes they will choose what you wouldn't.
    Tim McDaniels did you a service. He brought a discussion to light that should ALSO be addressed in every household. Because he brought it up—you can continue the conversation.
  16. citizen2
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    citizen2 - March 28, 2013 12:14 pm
    Why are so many people so quick to file formal complaints these days? If you have a problem with a teacher's methods, try TALKING to the teacher! If you are concerned about what goes on inside the classroom, most teachers would be happy to let you sit in on a class. Better yet, volunteer at your child's school! Get to know the people who impact your children's lives and be a positive force for change instead of rushing to condemn and potentially ruin someone's livelihood.

    Teachers are human beings who deserve our respect. Thank you for your years of service, Mr. McDaniel. I'm sure the students of Dietrich have benefited from your wisdom, even if a few angry voices disagree.
  17. Citizen2010
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    Citizen2010 - March 28, 2013 12:08 pm
    Horrible to think that one of those parents has already had 6 kids go through this class and there haven't been any issues up until this point.
  18. Hanky
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    Hanky - March 28, 2013 10:54 am
    Sounds like what you have there is a teacher who cares about doing his job and educating his students... A good teacher doesn't tell kids what to think, but teaches them to think for themselves-- clearly that's what Mr D is trying to do, and it's a shame that parents would try to run him out of town for doing his job well...

    Stay classy, Idaho!
  19. Bruddaman
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    Bruddaman - March 28, 2013 10:19 am
    It's Kitty Norman. Just want to clarify so everyone knows who exactly it is making these allegations.
  20. joebleaux
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    joebleaux - March 28, 2013 10:11 am
    "McDaniel said that he teaches directly from the school-approved biology textbook. He also denied sharing student information with anyone other than a parent.

    "He said that the 10th grade science class includes information on birth control and sexually transmitted diseases because the school’s health teacher declines to teach the material.

    “'Since I started working here about 17 years ago, I agreed to teach about the reproduction system because I was comfortable with it and he wasn’t,' McDaniel said. 'This is the first time someone has objected to the material.'”

    Let me get this straight. The HEALTH teacher refuses to teach about birth control, STDs, and human reproduction, so for 17 years Mr. McDaniel has being doing the HEALTH teacher's job? And it's Mr. McDaniel who is being investigated and reprimanded, not the HEALTH teacher, all because Katie Norman, Jaylyn Shaw, and Melinda Robertson object to the content on human reproduction in Mr. McDaniel's science class?

    It is long past time for those three individuals to apologize to Mr. McDaniel and withdraw their complaint.
  21. Bruddaman
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    Bruddaman - March 28, 2013 10:08 am
    HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY...............I agree with Philbert, except its not the magicvalley, its not Idaho, Its simply Dietrich.
  22. Wrinkles09
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    Wrinkles09 - March 28, 2013 9:49 am
    I wish there was a "like" button or a "thumbs up" button! Well said Bruddaman!
  23. Philbert
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    Philbert - March 28, 2013 9:40 am
    The entire world is now watching this travesty. I've seen comments in papers and sites from New York to Australia. The residents of this beautiful community are tarnishing their reputation and making themselves a laughing stock on a global basis, a fact that will surely be noticed by their children.

    Perhaps instead of using the word "Vagina", Mr. McDaniel could just call it "The Magic Valley".
  24. ReallyMoneypenny
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    ReallyMoneypenny - March 28, 2013 9:28 am
    Change the headline to "Idaho parents raise kids so sensitive, the word 'Vagina' literally hurts them. Scientists baffled."
  25. Wrinkles09
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    Wrinkles09 - March 28, 2013 9:13 am
    Mr. McDaniel never showed "a video clip of genital herpes..." etc. What was showed was a students power point presentation on Herpes/Genital Herpes and the student had a photo of a person mouth and back of throat that was infected with herpes.

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